Amanda Bynes Driving Around Smoking What Appears to be Drugs in LA 9/11/12 LQ Tag

No, there is a difference between "can not" and "should not." The law does not address the latter. I mean, it used to be law that women couldn't vote. It used to be the law that you couldn't sell, purchase, or own alcohol. Laws aren't always just. What I'm talking about is the blanket statement that no one should ever drive while high. It's that kind of generalization that comes from misinformation about marijuana.

By all means, let's have some statistics.

She refused a BREATHALYZER TEST. Nobody was offering to test her for marijuana, and jumping to the conclusion that it was weed that caused the accident and not booze--especially since she REFUSED A BREATHALYZER TEST--is more than naive.

Yeah, hate to burst your bubble, Dr. Notadoctor, but your angry and disturbed friend did not arrive at that place thanks to weed. Weed doesn't turn you into a maniac, and it doesn't make you crazy. It can, particularly in young smokers, have a negative effect on IQ scores later in life, but you're inventing a boogeyman to explain the problems your friend most likely always dealt with and grew worse as a result of him not dealing with them in his youth.

 

I was a teenaged pothead who thought he could handle all the toking that life had to offer. In all seriousness, check out the Wayne's World movies and you'll see a pretty apt description (though caricaturized by the movie) of me and my social group at that time of my life. I got so stoned one night when I had the car and I couldn't focus enough while driving home because of the major buzz (no alcohol was involved) and I actually felt like I could only drive if I rolled down the window and looked at the white line on the road to get home. No embellishment, that's what happened. I was so relieved that I didn't wreck or get caught by the cops that I vowed the next day to never press my luck like that again as I believed I just burned off one of my nine lives.

Very opinionated and wrong to excess. There are many deaths attributed to the use of mind-altering substances both on the road and off, so wherever you think your facts are derived from can only be your imagination. And before you think I'm an anti-pot activist, look more closely at my username and avatar. And please make a little effort to educate yourself before spouting off your vitriol. :idea:

 

We've only started witnessing this decline in the past year since she stated she was quitting acting. I sense that she's following the Dana Plato path where drug addiction and criminal behaviour will eventually spell her demise. But what I'm wondering is if she is truly selling her body as I suspect - however you may wish to characterize it - for cash and/or drugs then why wouldn't she simply take nude roles in movies and cable television and bankroll her activities that way? Maybe she isn't giving sex for money, but if she isn't she sure is giving the impression that she is, to me anyway. :2cent:

 

I guess my point didnt come off clearly. I was trying to make a point that there are many thousands of people driving around on prescription drugs. These are legal drugs that have been prescribed by doctors. But these drugs are also 10 times more powerful than weed and yet just because a doctor prescribed them to a patient, we are supposed to accept the fact that these people are driving around all banged up on pills. We never hear about this problem in the news. We only make national news of pot smokers like this girl.

I'm not suggesting this behavior is appropriate. I'm just trying to say that there are bigger issues when it comes to impaired driving, yet nobody ever speaks a word about it. If you ask me who i'd rather have driving me around...someone who just smoked weed or someone who took a handful of benzos.......I'd take the person smoking weed!

 

SHe's not really selling her body. This started as a blind item gossip piece purported to be posted by Robert Downey Jr., and was later admitted to be a hoax. And in any event, the rumor wasn't that she was prostituting now, but that she was part of a child prostitution ring back in her Nickelodeon days.

 

Yes that is a good and true point. A lot drive and go through thier "normal" life zoned out on Xanax, Diazepam, Clonazepam, Lorazepam, just to name a few.
But thats fine cos it is prescription medication?

And guys, celebs are just like normal people a lot of the time and do silly and stupid things, just like us.

 

I'm pretty sure the law says don't do smoke weed in the first place, regardless of any opinion.

You want 'em you find 'em. I'm not interested in a pointless pissing match over pointless details with someone trolling for an argument as per their SOP when i've already stated that the number of alcohol related deaths far outweigh those in drug related accidents. Claiming they don't exist? Whatever pal.

I may not have any experience of LAPD traffic stop procedure, but i'm pretty sure they don't 'offer' a test for marijuana as opposed to a breathalyzer for alcohol. If there was do you think she would take it? People on drugs rarely make sound decisions. Refusal of a breathalyzer test is an instant DUI no matter if you've been drinking or not. Something Bynes refutes based on the claim she doesn't drink so couldn't be drunk. Both booze and weed impair judgement, it is and you are delusional to claim that weed could not have been the reason. Here's one for you, find me a picture of Bynes drinking since April 2012 to match the ones of her smoking shit in her car.

Sorry, but could you be an even bigger patronising prick? Given that i've known him all his life and he didn't start smoking well into his 20s he falls well outside the study you cited, I think I know my friends quality of his life and background considerably better than you. As for the Dr crap, your medical background is about as deep as Doctor Pepper yourself. Reading one study, does not make you expert. Watching re-runs of Frasier does not make you a psychiatrist able to make judgements on someones's childhood. Just because you smoke with what you see as no negative effects, doesn't mean others don't have an opposite reaction. If he did have an issue, it only became apparent after smoking heavily for years. Something possibly undetected was made worse by chemically altering brain function over a period of time. Therefore, cause and effect.

 

Perhaps it's medical weed, she may need it to help ease the pain of her lack of any acting jobs.

 

Could a mod maybe add "warning: douches" to the thread title?

 

Why, do you need a warning?



420: Thoughts on Pot vs. Alcohol from a Former Police Chief

How do the effects of these two drugs stack up against specific health and public safety factors?

Alcohol-related traffic accidents claim approximately 14,000 lives each year, down significantly from 20 or 30 years ago (attributed to improved education and enforcement). Figures for THC-related traffic fatalities are elusive, especially since alcohol is almost always present in the blood as well, and since the numbers of "marijuana-only" traffic fatalities are so small. But evidence from studies, including laboratory simulations, feeds the stereotype that those under the influence of canniboids tend to (1) be more aware of their impaired psychomotor skills, and (2) drive well below the speed limit. Those under the influence of alcohol are much more likely to be clueless or defiant about their condition, and to speed up and drive recklessly.

Hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths occur annually. There has never been a single recorded marijuana OD fatality.

According to the American Public Health Association, excessive alcohol consumption is the third leading cause of death in this country. APHA pegs the negative economic impact of extreme drinking at $150 billion a year.

There have been no documented cases of lung cancer in a marijuana-only smoker, nor has pot been scientifically linked to any type of cancer. (Don't trust an advocate's take on this? Try the fair and balanced coverage over at Fox.) Alcohol abuse contributes to a multitude of long-term negative health consequences, notably cirrhosis of the liver and a variety of cancers.

While a small quantity, taken daily, is being touted for its salutary health effects, alcohol is one of the worst drugs one can take for pain management, marijuana one of the best.

 

Wow this is an extremely educational thread

 

:lurk:

 

How long until this train wreck crashes and burns?
I know Playboy won't offer her to pose,maybe Hustler or Skank?
Is High Society still around?
LOL

 

High Society?!! Dude, how old are you? Might as well see if Oui, or cheri is still around.

 

That's not the point, and you know it. Or you don't know it, and this is just a big waste of time.

Right, because now that you've been called out on your silly claims, you'd rather run and hide than admit you're talking out of your ass. Never fear, because Smoopy makes a great point a couple of posts up.

Actually, people on marijuana tend to make pretty good decisions, such as driving below the speed limit and adjusting for their level of impairment. And the reason I point out that she turned down a breathalyzer test was because you made it sound as if her turning down a test at the scene was evidence of her being high as opposed to drunk--you even went on to say that she claims to not drink alcohol. I simply needed to point out that it wasn't a drug test she turned down, but a BAC test, and her turning it down only indicated that she had been drinking rather than smoking.

Yeah, friends of people who have psychotic episodes often say they never saw it coming, either. Nobody really knows anybody else, especially people who have mental problems. Such disorders can stay hidden for many years to people who aren't looking for them, and may not manifest outwardly until later in life. The idea that weed made your friend a nutbag is unscientific and absurd. Find a different scapegoat, like his parents and his doctors and teachers who probably overlooked signs.

 

terry richards?

 

A little excerpt from this study:

"Marijuana does appear to impair driving behavior. However, this impairment is mediated in that subjects under marijuana treatment appear to perceive that they are indeed impaired. When they can compensate, they do, for example, by not overtaking, by slowing down and by focusing* their attention when they know a response will be required. Unfortunately, such compensation is not possible where events are unexpected or where continuous attention is required."

The bold part just slapped you in your face and used your own argument against you.

The asterisk just proved that focus power does indeed exist and that you didn't even know that. The fact of the matter is that while weed is a less severe mind altering substance than other stuff, the user is still high, not in complete control, and shouldn't be driving any kind of vehicle when other lives are at stake.

Under the influence is under the influence no matter how much anybody wants to twist the realities of it all.

 

That's the real life, dude!

 

Un licensed driver smoking pot while going down the street in her car, and theres people on this forum that don't think thats a big deal?

Sounds like the activity of some trashy high school drop out, someone like her doing this must have some real problems.

 

The verdict is still out on that one.