INFO Buisness as usual, sort of.

This misrepresents things imo. It was just about where content was most appropriate to be posted.
Seeing as he set up this section to promote (on phun) women who choose to show off on social media it would appear that he is celebrating them for it, not shaming them.

 

Agreed.

For me, if you were a musician or actress, you're a celebrity for life. None of this "if you didn't chart, you're not a celeb" stuff because until last August, I didn't know what Taylor Swift looked like, nor had I heard any of her songs, but I still knew of her, while a lot of the bands/musicians I'm a huge fan of and who influenced my own music, I doubt many on here would know who they were.

If you're "famous" for doing porn, modelling, or you're only known on Instagram and Youtube, that - to me - isn't a celebrity.

 

IMHO Maitland Ward is now only relevant due to slutty social media posts and nothing else. Is someone who was on 5 episodes of a sitcom 20 years ago and done nothing since, really a celebrity? REALLY?! I have to agree with those who have said that celeb status isn't permanent and has to be maintained. Except maybe in the cases of Charlie Chaplin and Marilyn Monroe.. who haven't done much lately. Death doesn't count. But trying to remain in the spotlight by using social media to be shocking and slutty is pretty lame. I think create a special sub forum for 'internet stars and models' and leave it at that. As for who belongs there and who doesn't, you have a polling feature, right?

 

and I think a good example is the Baldwin sisters. They are celebs in my opinion, due to the fact they have been in the public eye for a very long time. I have no idea what Ireland Baldwin does for a job now, but, at one point a bit over a decade ago, half of the world had heard of her. Cos Daddy went crazy and called her a "disgusting little pig". Sometimes it can be just one role or one song or one particular major moment of media attention that can result in one being forever 'famous'.

However - random IG fame whores (no matter how many followers) who have NEVER had their name uttered in an Entertainment report or newspaper or mainstream media - are definitely not celebrities. Like I said, that takes at least one example of major media exposure. IE: their "big break". None of the IG or Youtube stars qualify as having had that. None of them are "household names".

 

I think social media is a big part of the problem though, it's boolean. Tumblr, Twitter and Reddit belongs to Amateur Models because they post nude and usually aren't real celebrities, Instagram and Snapchat are PG except in private snaps and potentially insta-stories so you have to decide if you segregate by platform or by celebrity/amateur model status (which can change) Maitland looks to have gone from minor imdb celebrity to fetish model and Sasha Grey went from pure porn star to staring in a few shows and movies. There really isn't a bright line unless you create too many sub-groups.

 

I agree completely. I'd say create the sub forums and just review on a case by case basis. With a poll if it's really debatable.

 

Once a celeb, always a celeb.

 

I don't think we need more sub-forums, but I do think there has to be some acceptance that certain persons can be posted in multiple sections. Some just blur the lines on the status they fall into and in those cases one should consider what the content is.

 

As others have already said...

Once a celeb always a celeb.

I personally don't believe a person must have an IMDB page to be considered a celebrity. IG, Youtube, etc... it's all good.

I fail to see why some get so worked up over this.

 

I'm with him. If you have enough people giving a shit about your daily life you're a celebrity. I don't like most of the people that fall into this category, but doesn't matter. For this forum, if they have enough of a following and they post hot content I think they go in the celebrity bin.

 

From wiki:
Celebrity refers to the fame and public attention accorded by the mass media to individuals or groups or, occasionally, animals, but is usually applied to the persons or groups of people (celebrity couples, families, etc.) themselves who receive such a status of fame and attention. Celebrity status is often associated with wealth (commonly referred to as fame and fortune), while fame often provides opportunities to earn revenue.
Successful careers in sports and entertainment are commonly associated with celebrity status, while political leaders often become celebrities. People may also become celebrities due to media attention on their lifestyle, wealth, or controversial actions, or for their connection to a famous person.

Maitland Ward was an actress and now is doing non actress stuff. But what about lets says Stormy Daniels. Wouldnt her current media hype mean she has reached a level of celebrity? Bethany Mota, a youtuber, appearing on Dancing With The Stars.

How to become and whats makes a celebrity has changed. And who views someone as a celebrity is subjective. Karhashians are an example of that, some think they are celebrities and some dont.

Maybe go by what the person was last known for, if Ashley Judd last was an actress, then keep posting her in a actress category. Maitland Ward was an actress doing adult stuff, so post her in an adult category.

But at the end of the day, just give me my pictures of some hot legs. What category I download them from doesnt matter to me at all. There is no right answer. The owners just need to make some basic rules because the categories are nothing more than some method of organization.

 

2 key words there: "mass media" .. so is Instagram classed as mass media? I don't think so. Also, yes, I think Stormy Daniels is a celebrity now, simply because of that. When every media outlet (tv, newspapers, ACTUAL news websites ) in the country (and internationally in this case) are saying your name repeatedly for whatever reason.. that's what I think qualifies someone. Be it for sport or music or acting or whatever it is. Kim K made herself famous when she signed that contract. It shocked people. The reality show made her sisters celebrities because so many people tuned in. Now she is A list and has no talent in the 3 things I mentioned. She carved her own way into the forest and made a NAME for herself. That's what makes a celebrity , name recognition. How many Americans out of 100 would have heard her name before? etc. Maitland Ward flashing her 40 something gash on Instagram is so far from celebrity.. it's a joke.

 

it's not really about the definition of 'celebrity', it's just about category... famous for being on tv / movies = celeb section. famous for being naked away from tv or movies = model section. that's all.

 

Call me kinda sorry to see Scribe leave... he was a somewhat irascible cuss, but he stayed true to his own course through this stuff and his work as a herder of cats (us) is actually appreciated.

 

I'm sure he'll be back. It's a thankless job, and all you do is deal with a bunch of assholes, myself included.

I've been banned more than once by him, but I get that if there is no discipline, then this place would spiral out of control quickly.

 

Have never posted here before because I coulnt for years for some reason and never had anything really to add after I was able.

There are lots of new "celebrities" posted that I have never heard of before...doesnt make them any less of one.

Take Jessica A. or Jessica B. for example, if they exited mainstream acting and started only doing Vivid videos, would it make them less of a celebrity. Nope. Farrah Abraham still keeps getting posted and noone reallu seems to argue.

Everyone knows why we are here. Enjoy it and get along...not everyone has the same taste. Lots of other boards have came and went in 10+ years, and we are still here.

 

Actually a post of Farrah Abraham at the beach got moved to the Social Media section yesterday even tho she seems to be a celeb, and they were not social media content. So I have no idea what the standard is, or will be...

To be sure, we should all just check both sections.

 

She was on Twin Peaks Season 3 less than a year ago.

 

Maybe just have something in the thread prefixes to describe what kind of "celeb" they are, whether it be Actor, Musician, Model, Pornstar etc and use the prefix for what they are doing now, not what they did.

Although, in the case of someone who hasn't done anything for a while but was an actor, for instance, still use actor rather than unemployed

 

Maitland Ward is a celeb by definition only bc she was a supporting actress in a few things 15 years ago. Just like a million other supporting actors/actresses. Currently though, shes only a social media medium-core porn star, like millions of other social media models are. She exists in that gray zone where we wish Danica McKellar or Victoria Justice would jump into!!